Designs we left behind

Posted by Ashley Wells on Monday, November 12, 2007 5:45 PM PT
Admit it. You saw our new homepage and it lived up to your wildest fantasies about online news presentation. Me, too. Okay, maybe—maybe—two, three people tops will say ‘what were they thinking?!’ Rest assured we were thinking. For about two years. Here’s how it started.

The gentle evolution



This is our existing design, just wider. And with a rotating video area in the top right. And collapsible links in the center. And icons. And time stamps. Nothing terribly exciting. User groups liked it. It felt safe. But they didn’t love it. Neither did we.

Culture shock



Don’t tell our editors, but I really just designed this one to scare them. Or, ehm, ‘challenge assumptions.’ Did we really need navigation on the left? Why not scroll visual stories sideways? How about we then just list stories? Let readers dial the amount of detail up or down and sort them by importance, number of related videos, user ratings, number of comments, time published, etc? Kinda like news search on steroids.

Nobody ran screaming. They had questions. But good ones. Turns out some of them had even stranger ideas. So we put a more colorful version of the one above in front of user groups with a few more measured options.

Sample platter



User groups can be tough. They debate shades of blue. Ads drive ‘em crazy. But they all agree on one thing: Put the date at the top of the page. Done!

Our first concept was just too complicated. So many options, so little time. The second, with its big rotating top stories, did better. But it didn’t offer enough variety. The last one pushed a video clipping feature at the top—a big ol’ box of video. They weren’t buying it. Turns out news video is often an impulse item.

All these users really wanted from us was simplicity. At-a-glance top stories. Interesting pictures. An easy to find sports section. ‘Tell me what’s important, but give me options to decide on my own.’ Hm. So we don’t have to re-invent ourselves? Like into a social news site? Or one that moves instead of scrolls? Just live up to our potential by doing we what we already do, but better?  If you say so …

Closer



I started this one on a plane with some help from Curious George sitting next to me. “I don’t like type on photos.” Neither do our photo editors. Let’s start with that. Then add flexible layouts. That way we can re-mix the news as it changes. “And you can skip all of that entertainment fluff,” said George. Whoa, Hoss. It helps pay the bills. Beside, everyone has different tastes. My wife might put entertainment up high. What if I let her do that and help George pretend he only reads weighty world news? So I sketched out a series of strips. Move buttons. Resize buttons. And headlines bundled with video, multimedia and in-depth topics. Yeah, that might work.

Back to user groups. They studied the new sketch versus the current site. Chins were stroked. Brows furrowed. Silence. They were torn. That’s a good sign, because the site you’ve already got always wins with these people. But not this time. They noticed the top layout powered by actual humans. And the resizeable, moveable strips. And more multimedia. Some—no, most—began to favor the new one. Not quite perfect. Not yet.

Outsourcing



It helps to have design buddies. In this case, we called on Cameron Moll, Greg Storey and JD Hooge to clean up our latest sketch. Solve this problem. Keep that. Make this work. Explore. Each influenced our final design. Along the way, we landed on a humble new lowercase logo and peacock-inspired color spectrum. Professional, but friendly. By now you know that below is where we ended up. Where to next? Let’s discuss …



Ashley Wells is msnbc.com's Creative Director and the design lead of the redesign project

Comments

Overall, I don't mind the reorganization of information, but the design leaves something to be desired. The colors in the banner are too contrasting. They are actually painful to look at. Also, the "Breaking News" headline portion just below the masthead is WAY, and I do mean WAY to thick! There's no reason to give up a half inch of vertical space to a line of simple text!

Finally, the left navigation menu was more functional and easy to access when it fell alongside the top news stories instead of below them. I can understand wanting to maximize your horizontal space, but dropping the navigation bar down causes it to be seen as a secondary tool instead of the primary method for navigating the site's news stories.

I don't know about other users, but when I visit the site for news, I want to read specific articles from specific sections. I don't want the software to try and interpret what I want to read, I want to choose for myself and I want that choice to be as simple and easy as possible. Before that was possible, but now the navigation bar blends in with the rest of the page and my eyes have to search for it before I can go exploring. Not a good design choice.

Everything else I liked about the original site seems to be there or better off, but these negatives I've pointed out are major negatives that are causing me to reevaluate if I want to go through the trouble of reading MSNBC.com.
I think the new site design is fantastic, and other websites will follow your new lead.  I love the colors on the top graphics, and think you've done an excellent job of balancing the news, sections, ads, etc. throughout the entire page.  In fact, I haven't seen anyone else do it better.  Most people don't understand how insanely difficult it is to balance so many competing elements on a site of this size and scope - job very well done.
I love the new look!!! I love change though so I can adapt very easily! I keep it up all day to watch the changing faces of the journalism world throughout the day
I really dislike the popups that seem to appear with lists of things I don't want to look at right now -- and although I've edited for the weather etc to change -- even after logging in -- nothing has been saved.

Maybe you launched too early and this design needed to be left behind too.
I Love it!  Love the subtle colors.  Love that I can move the news categories up or down.  Love that I can expand or collapse the amount of news articles in a category.  Awesome.  Great job!!

Also, content wise, like that items are updated and new items posted as regularly as possible.  I like MSNBC.com's layout best over ABCnews.com(both before and after the redesign).
What happened to "BLOGS"?  I enjoyed the weekly political cartons.
I like the new design - although I think a revamping of the main headline/headlines is needed. But thats just me. Make one main headline - are small co-headlines.
Liked the old design better, guys-- much easier to find things -- plus it looked fine on i.e. ... which is still the most used browser.  My advice-- have ONE central focus for main stories, like you had it before.  As it is now, my eyes hurt from trying to look at everything at once... too much going on and I don't know where to look.  Sorry, just my opinion.  Also, the video I selected didn't work either.  Not a good thing, but it is a new release, so I get that.  
Ok, well, hope this helps, and sorry if I am too blunt.



Steve
All I can say is - Fantastic!  In an era where most content providers seem to have decided that the choice is form or function, you have knocked the ball out of the park and proven that you can in fact have both.

I've now made your site the first one I visit each day.  I'm sure many will follow, thanks to your bold and refreshing change!
I love the new design...clear, concise, and crisp. Job well done! It may take some time to get used to it, but hey what the heck...it looks good.
This page takes forever to load, the page is not intuitive, stocks take up too much space.  It is very disjointed and hard to navigate. Please bring back the old layout.
Loading time is much longer... so much so that I can't use it at work.  That might be a good thing for my Boss, but I doubt you want people switching away.  Please keep in mind that many offices share a network connection and it gets *really* slow at times during the day. (ie; lunch).
I don't like the design at all.  There's just less news on the page.  Your 'Explore' box is the worst of the lot.  I have to scroll the frame to read anything, even the few stocks I track, and I can't have the news stories for those stocks and the market in general all on the front page.  I have to scroll down inside that frame to see sports scores and other local news in the 'My News' section.  Why does that frame even exist?  Take all of the stuff in there and make them into the same kind of sections you've made on the rest of the page so I can put all of the stuff I don't want to see at the bottom of the page.  Then I have the full width of the window to see what I want.

Looking at the Gentle Evolution design, you have 24 headlines that fit on one screen.  That's not really different from the original design.  On your new design, on my VERY LARGE screen, I only see 10 including two about this redesign ergo, eight real stories.  The first thing I noticed about the redesign was that you're giving me more glitz and less news.

Beat a hasty retreat to the old design and we'll just forget this debacle.
LOVE it..   this will be my new home over CNN
I don't really like the new format, it requires too much scrolling and the sections are too busy, but those are things one might get used to.

One thing I really, really dislike is the fly-out menus everywhere you point your mouse.  For that reason alone, I may have to make cnn or cbsnews.com my main source of news.  
very nice... I'm ready to make this my home page again...
Let me pick what sections are on the home page.  The move up or down option is great but add a remove.  Being able to pick a replacement section would be helpful too.  I also prefer the Dow and NASDAQ on the home page though.  I get news in quick spurts.  I dont want to have to dig for the important items like the stock market.

Otherwise, I like it.
Regarding the WIDER layout, you say that you've "optimized the user experience for a 10x7 and wider browser experience, which more than 80% of our readers use". Firstly, I have to assume that by "10x7" you mean a 1024x768 (and up) *screen resolution*, since resolution is the only size metric that can be derived from an anonymous browser. With that assumption, please be reminded that a user's screen resolution has NOTHING to do with the size (aspect ratio) of their browser window, which can be resized arbitrarily, completely independent of screen resolution. In other words, if you've assumed from a typical screen resolution of 1024x768 that those users *also* have their browser windows sized to a 10x7 ratio, then you're suffering from a fundamental misunderstanding of browser metrics.

You say that you "needed to catch up with the technology that the vast majority of you are using", but that's tantamount to saying that just because something's possible, it's also a good idea. I find the wider layout very annoying, and the same goes for any of the "wide" news sites you hold up as examples. I hate tabs (they're no improvement over simply clicking the icon for a single browser window in my Windows taskbar), so their advent alone doesn't make a wider layout more acceptable. I usually (as most probably do) have *many* windows open at once, and I like to size them all below full-screen size in order to better navigate my desktop.

Being forced to maximize my browser window in order to scan headlines is, to put it tactfully, VERY ANNOYING. Thanks.
I agree with the comment from Mr. Harper that the design is too busy.  Maybe it is just the comfort level I had with the old format and the ease of navigating it, but I am not yet convinced this is an improvement, particularly since I cannot easily spot the weather and stock symbols I had.
It was a fun project. And let's not forget Ethan Marcotte's involvement. Ethan provided the initial web standards based code for the templates.
That pinned Explore thing plopped right in the middle is the single worst obstruction.  but, the inability to completely rid the page of those lower collapsing sections is almost as bad. with that said, i happily concede the beauty of the wide screen.  i just need more non-fluff on the initial screen.
Way too many popup and drop down menus. Who actually uses those anyways? I know I personally prefer to just click on the "Health" section home page and browse from there.

I dunno, maybe some people are in a super big hurry to read the news and the extra mouseclick would turn them away to FOXNEWS.com.

But cant you guys make them smaller or somehow less intrusive if you should accidentally brush your cursor over one of the several dozen links that will invoke a menu?
I like the "Culture Shock" MSNBC header and page format especially "now with more cowbell"!  I don't have the time to wander all over god's green earth to find what I am looking for on a website and having everything in one easy tab navigation makes sense.  The final format works too but I could do without fly-out (yes, I disable it) and continuous scrolling.  Simplicity, please - we aren't designing an evening gown for Project Runway.
WOW, looks great and very nicely organized ;)

I have one issue with the physical size of the page. I know that you've got everything cached.

I'm guessing that 50+ percent of the page is dedicated to flyout menu list items. Seems kind of excessive - resulting in higher bandwidth usage, slower download times and a major decrease in page views.
Well...there are many things that could be made better. For one, it is super busy. Too much so. Too many things in the top portion of the screen. It doesn’t function at all like the other major news websites out there. I agree change can be good sometimes...but not in this case. The other thing is the functionality of the site has degraded because of the new layout. The designer made some bad decisions when he strayed away from the news website norm. There is a reason most news sites look alike. Same reason newspapers look alike. It's all about usability. It's a shame. Maybe they will do more research and go back to their old design?


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